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In this episode of Expansion, Rex and Jon sit down with Jon Kol, co-founder of Hyperlane, to unpack interop solutions today. Kol shares his journey from traditional finance to crypto, explaining the vision behind Hyperlane's open-source approach to crosschain communication. The conversation delves into the challenges of building sustainable infrastructure in a rapidly changing environment, the potential impact of z proofs, and the future of blockchains. Thanks for tuning in!
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(01:47) What's Wrong with Banking
(06:15) Inevitable Need for Interop
(14:57) Permissionless III Ad
(16:17) Where is the Value of Bridging?
(25:27) Are Fees a Race to $0?
(32:45) Differentiation of HyperLane
(40:45) Why Enable Interop?
(45:45) End Game of Communities
(57:20) Impact of ZK
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Disclaimer
Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation.
Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.