Will NFTs Recapture Mindshare from Memecoins? | Geebz, TylerD, and DeeZe

In this episode, Jason is joined by geebz, TylerD, and DeeZe to discuss the current state of NFTs and memecoins. They dive into how meme coins have taken attention away from NFTs recently, similar to the 2021 NFT bull cycle. The guests share their thoughts on the future of the NFT market, including the potential for gaming NFTs, ordinals on Bitcoin, and the experimentation happening with NFT utility. They also discuss the intense competition among NFT marketplaces like Magic Eden, Blur, and OpenSea. Finally, Jason shares learnings from launching the Permies NFT collection for Blockworks' Permissionless conference. Stay tuned for all of this and much more!

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(00:00) Intro

(02:15) NFTs vs Memecoins

(13:27) Are Memecoins Cycle Top Froth?

(19:24) Roundtripping Gains

(22:37) Future of NFTs

(31:00) Crypto Native NFTs vs Outsiders

(34:56) NFT Allocation in 2024

(48:32) Wormhole Ad

(49:59) Monad Ad

(50:57) Shardeum Ad

(51:53) Supra Ad

(52:50) The Memecoin Supercycle

(56:13) NFT Marketplace Structure

(01:06:32) Web2 NFT Adoption

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