ep. 97


The Everything Bubble | Charles Cascarilla

In this episode of Empire, Jason is joined by Charles Cascarilla, co-founder of Paxos, to discuss the state of the market. How did we get here, and what should we expect next?

Show highlights include:

  • How the everything bubble started in 1995
  • What tradeoff the Fed has to make
  • How low interest rates perpetuated the greatest lie
  • The 3 likely scenarios going forward
  • How Paxos plans to bring $700T of assets on chain
  • Why stablecoins aren't actually stable
  • What Richard is looking forward to next

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Referenced in the show:

Paxos Website


Charles on "Invest Like the Best" (2019)


Charles on "Invest Like the Best" (2020)



(00:00) Introduction

(01:12) The Macros Mess

(08:17) The Everything Bubble

(10:27) How To Invest In This Environment

(13:06) What is Bitcoin's Narrative?

(18:34) BTC and Crypto's Outlook In A Macro Bear Market

(24:18) Short Or Long-Term Pain?

(28:05) Paraswap Ad

(29:13) Almost All Stablecoins Aren't Stable

(35:54) Paxos Aims To Bring All Assets On Chain

(38:28) Privacy Is A Requirement For Adoption

(40:17) Crypto's Unlock

(43:32) What Projects Emerge From The Bear?

(45:35) The Most Exciting Thing in Web3 Today


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