Why Self-Custody Still Matters | Pascal & Ian

In this episode Jason dives deep into the world of digital ownership and security with Pascal Gauthier, CEO, and Ian Rogers, CXO of Ledger. They explore the importance of self-custody in an increasingly digital world and how Ledger's products empower individuals to securely own and interact with their crypto assets. Ian shares his fascinating journey from working with the Beastie Boys to shaping digital experiences at Ledger, while Pascal provides insights into the company's mission, business lines, and the challenges of navigating regulation. The conversation also touches on the future of luxury in a world of digital ownership and the potential for crypto adoption in the coming years. Enjoy!

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Story of Ledger Stax


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Sei Labs believes the EVM is here to stay.

By providing the fastest time to finality of any chain, thousands of transactions per second and full backwards compatibility with the EVM, Ethereum developers can try out a brand new design space for their applications.

Try out sei v2 devnet - visit the new sei.io to find out more.

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Avalanche is a smart contracts platform that scales infinitely and regularly finalizes transactions in less than one second. Its novel consensus protocol, Subnet infrastructure, and HyperSDK toolkit enable Web3 developers to easily launch powerful, custom blockchain solutions.

Build anything you want, any way you want, on the eco-friendly blockchain designed for Web3 devs.

Start building today at https://www.avax.network/

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Mantle recently launched their airdrop program "Rewards Station" to holders of its native token, $MNT. The Rewards Station program distributes pre-sale token allocations or listed token to $MNT holders who stake their $MNT.

Check out the rewards station: https://www.mantle.xyz/rewards-station

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(0:00) Introduction

(02:18) Founder Dynamic

(07:22) Digital Ownership Vision

(17:12) Ledger PMF

(31:25) Ledger Stax Vision

(35:13) Sei Ad

(36:11) Marinade Ad

(37:15) Avalanche Ad

(38:12) Mantle Ad

(39:10) First Secure Touchscreen

(56:56) Ledger Business Lines

(01:02:43) IPOs in 2024

(01:14:48) Future of Brands in Crypto

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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

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