
<p>In the latest episode of &#8220;<a href="https://youtu.be/p1j26w9DaHc" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Empire</a>,&#8221; Blockworks&#8217; Co-founder Jason Yanowitz sits with Tom Schmidt of Dragonfly Cap and Tarun Chitra of Gauntlet for a DeFi deep dive. They cover a range of topics, from DAOs and governance, to the digitization of corporations in our increasingly technology-based world.</p>



<p>Plus, listen to hear their thoughts on:</p>



<ul class="wp-block-list"><li>the deleveraging spiral in DeFi (decentralized finance)</li><li>the crypto outlook for 2022</li><li>tokenomics</li><li>and so much more!</li></ul>



<p>Check out what they had to say in the video below. 👇</p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>About the show</strong></h3>



<p>&#8220;Empire&#8221; is a twice-a-week show. On Thursdays, Jason interviews crypto industry movers and shakers to talk about their struggles, bold moves and tough decisions. Friday&#8217;s weekly roundup episodes feature <meta charset="utf-8">co-host Santiago Roel Santos and cover the top news from the past week.</p>



<p>For any NPR or Guy Raz fans out there, you can think of &#8220;Empire&#8221; as a &#8220;How I Built This&#8221; for the bitcoin and crypto industry.</p>



<p>Subscribe to &#8220;Empire&#8221; today on&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/empire/id1554930038" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Apple</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/4UTePv1CR3APdKOiosR3Iq" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Spotify</a>. Watch episodes on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvER9nHSRN3wPkrDGTT5_8VC4Hjcq0f9U" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">YouTube</a>.</p>



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