Podcast: Bitwise CIO on DeFi’s Next Institutional Buyer

Jason and Matt talk about the next wave of institutional capital moving into the DeFi space.

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In the latest episode of Blockworks’ podcast “Empire,” Jason Yanowitz, co-founder of Blockworks, is joined by Matt Hougan, the Chief Investment Officer at Bitwise Asset Management.

Jason and Matt discuss how an ETF would benefit financial advisors, DeFi innovation, future outlook for the space and incoming regulation.

Jason and Matt talk about:

  • How Bitwise decides what to put in an index
  • Financial advisors effect on crypto markets
  • Younger generations outlook on cryptocurrencies

Check out what they had to say in the video below. 👇

On “Empire,” once a week, Jason interviews individuals that have built the crypto industry to talk about their struggles, bold moves and tough decisions. For any NPR or Guy Raz fans out there, you can think of “Empire” like a “How I Built This” for the bitcoin and crypto industry.

Episodes are released every Thursday morning. 

Subscribe to Empire today on Apple or Spotify. Watch episodes on YouTube.

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