In the latest episode of “Empire,” Blockworks’ co-founder Jason Yanowitz is joined by Haseeb Qureshi of Dragonfly Capital and Avichal Garg of Electric Capital.

Both are strong voices when it comes to tokenization, the metaverse and multichain futures. In this episode, Haseeb and Avichal debate the merits of the “blockchain as cities” philosophy, the future of crypto and what a multichain world will look like.

Plus, hear their thoughts on:

  • Network effects in crypto
  • Narratives in crypto
  • and so much more!

Check out what they had to say in the video below.👇

About the show

“Empire” is a twice-a-week show. On Thursdays, Jason interviews crypto industry movers and shakers to talk about their struggles, bold moves and tough decisions. Friday’s weekly roundup episodes feature co-host Santiago Roel Santos and cover the top news from the past week.

For any NPR or Guy Raz fans out there, you can think of “Empire” as a “How I Built This” for the bitcoin and crypto industry.

Subscribe to “Empire” today on Apple or Spotify. Watch episodes on YouTube.


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  • Blockworks
    Video Editor
    Brianna Beckford is a Florida-based editor mainly focused on digital assets and the crossroads between the virtual and physical. As a University of Florida grad in Art + Technology, she’s dabbled in writing and reporting with a focus on the growth of hypermediacy in the present day. She focuses on video and podcasting for Blockworks.